Apartment #4

I should have titled this post, "and another one bites the dust". So we went to see this place today, 6 rooms with 2 balconies and 2 storage rooms and while it was nice inside (not as nice as the photos make it look though), but all I can say is no, no, no. Let me put it politely. I did not click with the owner of that flat at all. So we left. And went for lunch. And whispered to one another in the cafe about more important things like forgetting the whole apartment search and going up to England to buy a house. I'm not even kidding. We are like that, we go on vibes and feelings and cosmic stuff sometimes. Like maybe this is all some kind of sign? And then we were walking home and there, on a street we pass by so frequently, was a sign with not one but TWO apartments for rent, one directly over the other one. One with 4 rooms and one with 5. We took down the number and called 5 minutes ago. We're seeing both places in 15 minutes. I'll let you know how it goes... Who knows? Perhaps Hannover wants us after all?

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T. said…
Oh my goodness. I would give anything to be apartment hunting in Germany right now! The pictures of that apartment are lovely (although they do tend to look better online than they do in person).

Good luck with the newest prospects!
Janel said…
Good Luck! I'm a silent reader here, well, really at decor8, but I've been curious about the hunt, and have been eagerly awaiting the "find". Not to burst your bubble, but England is horrid to renters and buyers. For sure find a reputable real estate person, that is the only way it is done, or was.

can't wait to see what happens today!
Karine Ardault said…
maybe one of those two is the one. I wish you good luck and let us now how it goes!
Karine Ardault said…
maybe one of those two is the one. I wish you good luck and let us now how it goes!
Forget them, come to England ;)
Our landlord is an ass but we only have to deal with him on limited issues. Good Luck!
V said…
Oh, the suspense!
Karen said…
I wish you luck for the two apartments!

About not "clicking" with the landlord: Usually you only see him twice. Before moving in and when moving out. Or three times, if you don´t pay the rent and meet up in the court room :-)

I just can not get over the low price for that apartment! Here in HH it would cost 1800 Euro if it was in a nice quarter like Ottensen, Eimsbüttel or Winterhude. In areas like Eppendorf or Harvestehude (more upmarket) the place would be even more expensive. Maybe I should convince my man to move?!?!

If you really are considering the UK: Good Luck! My sister in law has been living in and around London for 11 years. And she has nothing good to say about finding nice properties. And my own London-experience with finding an apartment in 1997 was horrid, to say the least.

For the money you want to spend on rent in Hannover you`d get a one bedroom flat with a tiny bathroom if you´d be hunting in London

Don´t worry. The right place will come. Where ever it may be!
good luck!!! finding a decent house is such a pain! all the best!!
england and london is full of beautiful apartments/houses if you ever decide to move away
Juliette said…
ugh, bummer - but, cool about finding 2 places to check out! It can take time....like lots, hang in there!

our last landlord was horrid and we just dreaded each and every interaction with him, even though it was only every once every 3-4 months. I agree, that can be a total deal-breaker. Good for you for knowing your limits.
haus maus said…
Karen - We can afford more but don't really "have" to here because you can rent up to 220 square meters for, on average, wayyy under 1,500 Euro. Ideally I'd like around 140 I think so that's between 900-1150 usually.

This place was cheap when it came to the base rent, but the monthly heat bill was high at 450 per month (here heat is calculated based on the year before and split into 12 months so it's not like it's 450 in the winter and 150 in the Summer, it's 450 each month) so with NM + Heat it was around 1750, Euros per month and then with cable and electric, about 2000- Euros.

I get paid in US Dollars so that is 2,900 USD per month. I don't earn Euros so I always have to convert the rents so they're not THAT cheap.
Claudia said…
...wow..your apartment hunt is very exciting! But what about just renting extra office rooms and just keep your nice lovely place?
anyway...good luck!
maybe you should read "Bestellungen beim Universum" by Bärbel Mohr ;)
haus maus said…
Claudia we thought of that but don't want to have to deal with business insurance and worrying about our equipment and such when we're not there. I asked my husband about this several times and he advises me not to do it, to get a place where I can have a office at home.
Hi Holly,

Im following your apartment hunt, have you thought about maybe going for a newer property as the heating would be more efficient and the energy rating better too. Plus it may also be cleaner, while apartment hunting before I saw lots of older places however as they were previously rented they tended to be abit grubby looking, old carpets, toilets and kitchens. It was so obvious they were not cared for as much compared to places where the owners lived themselves.

All things nice...
Little Pinwheel said…
I love getting your updates on the search for the perfect space and home. I cannot wait until it all comes together!

Good luck!
frauheuberg said…
oh, holly hopefully you have more luck now...sometimes it takes a lot of time to find the right place...was with our appartement the same...so keep cool...would be great if you stay by us in germany...so i keep the finger crossed for you...you two will do it...yeah...;)...
Anita Dore said…
Hi Holly,
WHen we first moved to Luxembourg we didn't have a great landlord and at first it didn't seem to matter but to make a long story short, we are still waiting for the remainder of our 5,000 Euro deposit for "retouching paint on doors" (we moved out in September)! Our new landlords are incredibly sweet, kind and generous and FAIR. We've had them over for brunch and we even exchanged Christmas cards. They really want us to be happy in our apt. As I'm sure you know, 'good will' is so important with landlord-tenant relations and if you feel like the landlord is not on the same page as you then GOOD FOR YOU for going with your instincts and not pursuing the place!

GOOD LUCK!
Oooh I hope at least one {if not both} are just what you're looking for! :)
Muriël said…
This is like a suspence novel! Let us know what happens soon!
Unknown said…
Having just found a home, I can imagine your excitement and determination. Can't wait for more of the play by play
Alison Gibbs said…
Good Luck with this one
The right one will turn up somewhere
Alison
Nicola said…
that happened to us when we were looking for a place! Every time we went something went wrong, so we decided not to move, and stayed in the town we were in. Turned out it was a good decision :) Hope things work out soon - house hunting is difficult.
leaca said…
Good luck with your search. My cousin lives in Berlin and he searched for a while before he found something and he isn't even a interior decorator.
Kim B. said…
I mistakenly left my comment the other day on decor8 . . .but the sentiments are the same. Hoping you had a good vibe about the apartments you saw last night. Hannover definitely wants you! There is too too much there that you enjoy, family and friends and all . . .

and of course if you don't like the landlord, that causes stress that is just not necessary! You are right to follow your gut on that.

crossing my fingers for you
Emily G. said…
Dear Holly,
I'm an Oregonian and transplanted to Hamburg four years ago. It's always quite fun to read about your similar experiences in relocating to Germany, the apartment hunt not excluded. Nearly four years ago I went through the same thing and I must encourage you to continue to follow your heart and intuition. During our search everything fell mysteriously into place and the fit was perfect. There is not a week that goes by that my boyfriend and I don't express how happy we are to be where we are.

Again, you and T will know when the fit is right. Sometimes you think it's hard to hear your heart when you have looked at so many places, but you will know if you listen.

Best of luck and thanks for continuing too make me smile as I see you encounter so many of the same things here in Germany . It's nice to know I'm not alone so far away from home.
Liebe Grüße aus Ahrensburg (near Hamburg),
Emily
Sacha said…
Holly, you might have covered this (apparently I missed it) but I was wondering why you won't buy instead of renting. Looking at the rental fees I'm sure you should be able to get a pretty nice appartment or house for that money! At least here in the Netherlands. Or will you be moving out again rather soon? In my book if you don't intend on moving any time soon buying is a much better investment than renting and it gives you so much more options!
helen said…
Hello Holly and good luck with your flat hunting, I hope that one of these two turns out to have your name on it!

We don't live in Germany so things may be different, but we did recently move to Belgium and finding somewhere to live DID take a while, the best part of two months and we went to see a lot of places. Our problem was that landlords were always suspicious of us because I am the sole earner, self-employed and foreign - there was always another prospective tenant who was a safer bet for them. But we found somewhere in the end, and it was in fact the nicest of all the places we saw! So don't feel too disheartened yet.

London is a great place to live but I have to say that in my experience finding a flat to rent is unrelentingly horrible and I hope I never have to do that again, so I would caution you against thinking it might be an easy option. Buying might be more pleasant though...

Anyway, I have my fingers crossed for you and your perfect flat finding each other soon!
C'mon! Don't loose hoe. You'll be able to get your perfect apartment - either in Germany or England. Have you considered moving to Portugal? :D That's a nice place!(But the rest of Europe is also great!).
Maybe you can help me with a doubt I have: why do germans don't use shower curtains (I just saw it in the pictures and I see it a lot in german magazines). I don't think that's very practical! :D
Yasmine said…
Finger crossed...
Sugar said…
I am loving following your hunt. Sorry it's been so blah. Crossing my fingers for ya!
Linz said…
g'luck! keep us posted!
Jeni Baker said…
I hope one of those works out! It's been fun following your hunt! We read a dialog in German today about a student looking to rent an apartment or rent a room in a shared house. That must be a good sign for you! :)
Holly, as you can imagine, the posts about these apartments bring back so many memories for me. The was not an area of Hamburg that I did not literally tear apart looking for an apartment (both times, when we rented, and the second time when we bought). Every single property had a snag. Either parking (the biggest), or the heating system (stay away from nachtspeichersysteme is all I can say) or the traffic-window conundrum (open the windows, die of the traffic noise, close the window, die of axfixiation). We finally made our criteria -- only top floor, only facing away from the main street.

One potential deal ended up with my husband ripping up the unsigned rental contract and throwing it out the real estate office window after reading that the renter had snuck in a 7% annual rise in rent over three years. We had already hired the moving company.

Looking for an apt. in Germany is tough, expensive and tricky. But you guys are savvy. You'll find the right place.
Wow 450 EUR PER month for heating sounds outrageous. What is a comparable heating bill for an apartment of that size? In France it's either individual electric heating or shared gas/radiator heating (in which case heating is included in the monthly maintenance charges, which vary from 80-250 in the 35-45 m2 apartments I've visited). Good luck, even if I am a bit jealous that you've been able to trouver votre bonheur at a speed I could only dream of!
Julia said…
We used to live in the List/Oststadt area and loved it!
Good luck with your hunt...and thanks for all of these nice pics of our "old home area". It´s nice to see all of the places we loved so much...I´m sure Hannover "wants you"!
Traveling Mama said…
Well, now I am dying to know how it went! We are like that too- sometimes you just have to go with your gut feelings! BTW- I was wondering if you considered applying for the real International House Hunters? Maybe they tried to contact you already? They contacted me through my blog and wanted to work with us until they found out that we plan to rent. :-( Bummer!
So exciting! It's too bad that was a really nice place.
Epp said…
And? How did it go? Don't keep us in suspense any longer! :D
Juliette said…
??? how'd it go? =)

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