{obama in berlin}

i was so pleased to read that over 200,000 gathered in berlin to see obama. i'm not that involved in politics, i keep my opinions to myself for the most part... but I was encouraged to see such a positive reception from berliners and the international community there as a whole. i want america to be respected again. i sometimes feel uncomfortable in germany telling people i am american, but now that a new president will soon be elected i have hope that perhaps we can slowly start to regain respect from the rest of the world as it makes my expat experience so much better living abroad when people actually like us... everytime i'm in germany people ask me about bush like he is a personal friend and they make fun of the government here, the war, it's all very frustrating as germans love to debate politics, especially some of my friends, and i feel like i have had little to argue over the years. i'm tired of being asked where i am from and when i say 'america' they say 'sorry' and shake their head like i just told them i lost both arms and my firstborn died, my husband was hit by a truck, and i was diagnosed with some nasty virus. of course, i get a lot of hits for my accent too, it's 'american' and not 'british' and so many in germany have a nasty taste in their mouth for america. at least they did, last year and the years before. perhaps this year in germany will be different for me. i won't be looked down on for being american. if we do indeed elect the first afro-american president and he can actually change things, my future in germany will be even brighter... sometimes we don't think of how strong opinions run in regards to american politics until we leave the country. then it's quite alarming. anyone in berlin reading... did you go? what was the overall vibe? note: i must add that friends and those around my age (and younger) tend to be very open-minded and love america - are fascinated by it even. it's more the older generations i think...

Comments

Anna @ D16 said…
Well, I think it's safe to say that our parents' generation of Americans definitely has a less than favorable opinion of Germany (and Germans), too. The relationship between our countries has gone through some really strained periods over the past century, and with our generation, things are finally starting to get to a point where there is genuine respect for each other as citizens (as opposed to political respect, which is an entirely different thing).

It's a sad thing to not feel proud of your country, and I am tired of being an apologist because of our president and his administration. The US is a huge, diverse country, and I'm so excited by the prospect of it being lead by someone who represents what's GOOD about America.
MW said…
We've actually learned to say we're from California instead of saying we're from the US. People in Europe seem to "get" us better that way. Or at least the reaction is a little more mild. I'm anxious to see what watching the election from Switzerland will be like. Have you made proper arrangements for your absentee ballots? The website is rather discouraging. It basically tells you not to get your hopes up for getting your vote in on time!
Juliette said…
People often tell me that Bill Clinton was such a great US president, but 10 yrs ago I was in Germany doing my internship and everybody had issues with him/me then too. I have higher hopes for Obama, but the problem is that internationals only see foreign policy, not domestic, so the new prez. should help our image for a couple of years, but come year 3...

I'm thankful I can say I'm Canadian since I have dual (as opposed to saying where I'm from). It's come in handy many a time!
Liason said…
i've had a good experience with Overseas Vote Foundation. For any of your other expat American readers who want their voice to be heard the website is:
https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/
amanda james said…
hi holly,
i am from berlin(germany) and i must say, the vibe here was very good. people really seem to embrase obama and for what he stands for. i think most germans are just tired of bush(jr and sr).because not much good came from them and their party.i think thats the reason why a lot of people doesnt like americans that much. to be honest i myself doesnt felt very proud being german(for all what happend in the past) but from that moment our hgovernment said we dont join the war agains osama i felt proud.i know that will cause some harm and i dont want to mean harm, but i think for us germans its very important not to be involved in a war again. but i think you dont have to worry. if the americans really elect barck obama than the whole world will be proud because he REALLY means a change- also in our minds.sorry, seems this is a bit too politica:-(
and yes, berlin loves obama. seems we are a bit crazy about him;-)
Coco said…
this sounds kind of familiar to me. I'm from the netherlands but spend many vacations in the u.s. and one year near boston. i feel that i always must defend america, people think the u.s only has hamburger restaurants, fat people and so on... i get really tired of it to explain that usa is very different and more than that!
anyway i two hope that the overal look of america will change if obama is prestident, who knows!
Anonymous said…
It must be frustrating to get negative vibes from people simply because you are an American.

But I would ask you to consider whether negative treatment is a sign that the US is doing something right. Our country needs to do what is right, not what will make us loved abroad. Even Obama now agrees that our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan is necessary, and he is also talking about attacking Iran.
Luna Levy said…
Hi Holly,

The way I deal with the current political situation as an American living in Germany is that when I introduce myself to someone, I immediately say "and I didn't vote for George Bush". This makes most Germans laugh and breaks the ice. But don't worry about it - you will find your own way!

Obama was lots, lots in the news this week - all very positive. And I would have loved to be in Berlin to see him.

Also, I figured out that you are moving to Hannover, not Hamburg - sorry, it is usually late at night when I am blogging here!

I am really excited for you! It will be a real adventure and life-changing experience to move abroad! One thing that helped me meet lots of interesting people at the beginning was to take some German classes. You can take them very inexpensively at the "Volkshochschule" - your husband will know about this. You end up getting to know lots of people from all around the world who are going through what you are with relocating. It was a very enriching, rewarding, helpful experience for me!
I was in Berlin and the vibe was fantastic. People from all over the world came together to see Obama. We all had to wait in very long lines and in the end we stood next to amazing people with stories to tell. For Example, the person I stood next to drove 13 hours from Naples, Italy just to see Obama speak. I myself only had a 3 hour drive. By the way, I know how you feel about Germans thinkings of America. I'm German but live in America and when I am traveling and tell people I live in America I either hear "Sorry" accompanied with a head shake or "So you like Bush" as if he was all America had to offer. I'm not allowed to vote, being that I am German, but I do hope Americans make the right choice when they go voting, and like you, I look forward to the US regaining it's good image.
Anonymous said…
but who decides what's right for whom, Bethany?
I think that's the whole issue here.

Nevertheless: America is a beautiful country, with fanastic people and there is no country on the world that has the perfect government or a paradise society.
Change will come again.
petits détails said…
As an American living in Paris (for the past eight years) and married to a Frenchman, I can really relate to some of the things you mention. That President Bush was elected is one thing, but, among other things, I think many people in France became disillusioned with the US when he was reelected.

Best of luck to you on your move and your life as an expat.
Anonymous said…
I can't help finding it a bit ironic that Germans would look down on someone for being American...
Sarah Bradley said…
Holly- I can't help but think that Anonymous was referring to Germany's history. Perhaps they feel it is somewhat hypocritical for Germans to criticize the US when they themselves have a very dark, dark history. How quickly our minds forget. Granted it was in the past and our government is making decision today. Nonetheless, it's easier to judge than see the similarities.
haus maus said…
Sarah -- Good point. Thank you for commenting.

It's important to note that their dark history was only a short time period in their history, 10 years maybe, before and after that for thousands of years they have quite a lot to be proud of as a culture.

Holly
Anonymous said…
I have been so darn excited for you going off to another land- I had not even given thought to the -lets face it-well-deserved negativity toward America!
Try this one on the next down their long nosier

Sometimes, standing up for our country means standing up against government, and that is exactly what is happening here in the U.S.
The warm greeting and support Obama received in Germany, is proof that so many there and I hope other countries have figured out what is really going on in the day to day lives of the amazing folks in our country
Anyone who believes are Rupert Murdock owned media, reports to the world even a fragment of the true lives and souls of the AMERICAN INDIVIDUAL, IS SADLY MISINFORMED.
As for your amazing Holly, just be the shining soul your are and no doubt your upcoming six months in the amazing land of Germany, will be wonderful for you and all those who get to know you
Namaste,
MaryBeth

P.S.
Those curtains are divine!
Anonymous said…
If you are boycotting west elm the first step is returning the curtains.
Anonymous said…
I know this is a very old post but reading the comments I just felt the need to say something... sorry..

I have to agree with Diana b/c I think the thing ppl criticize is actually the position the us-politics puts itself into.
This whole "we are the god-chosen country"-thing, "we know it all" and "we alone know whats right and wrong"
You can always have different opinions about political actions. But I don't agree in saying because we are germans, and there were bad things in the past, we don't have the right to criticize other political actions today. Isnt that what we were supposed to learn after WW II? To speak up when we feel someone is being mistreated? Im 22 years and not even my parents were born during WW II and while it is annoying not being liked as an american b/c of Bush jr., its annoying not being liked for stuff people did we (I) didn't even know. If we face it, a lot of countries did bad stuff in the past.. discriminate blacks in the us, killing innocent ppl in germany (...)

Still I hope you feel better now about being here. I lived in the states for a year and have been there a lot after that and I do love the american people a lot! I feel they are way more friendly in many situations and they always made me feel very welcome.

I hope you will get that feeling once you return in may and just you know, most of the people really had a problem with bush jr. and not with the american people. Its just that many fail to see the difference. That a president isnt always a reflection of the people living in his country.

Ahhhh... that was a lot now, sorry. I just had to add this anyway.

Have a great night!

Love from Münster

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