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I've been having such a great time... forgive me for not writing so often but so many times I've wanted to hop on here and say a few words but then I get onto something else, or work calls, and I'm off doing other things. I still love living here, I'm learning so much about my new country and culture and my vocabulary is growing with new words every single day (my goal) so by the time I begin taking classes I'll be feeling pretty confident.

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I've been checking several language institutes and local learning centers and the most challenging part for me has been to find one that fits my schedule. I work 50-75 hours per week, I don't know how I could go to school 5 hours per day, 5 days per week for over a year to meet the immigration requirements. At most, I can take 1 or 2 classes per week, but on nights and weekends only. It's such a challenge because Hannover is small in comparison to Berlin or Hamburg or Munich so we don't have the number of classes with flexible schedules here for immigrants. Plus, most immigrants aren't already working full-time, they are taking classes so that they can get jobs in Germany. I run a business, all of my work is in America, so I don't need to learn German overnight in order to live successfully here. But I want to learn and I'm studying on my own and soaking in as much as possible until I can get to formal classes because I'm really starting to feel like I must learn -- I don't like to feel dumb out in public! Dumb in the sense of not being able to converse properly, not dumb as in stupid. So yes, language classes... next on my list. And my driver's license - my goal is to have that taken care of very soon too but we're running into so many complications with it due to laws here -- in a nutshell my state only converts "some" driver's licenses in the states but not all. They convert Massachusetts licenses one to one. Meaning I can walk in with a valid MA license and walk out with a valid German license. But I have a valid New Hampshire license. I just got a NH license not too long ago. I went to driving school in MA at age 15 and drove there in that state for 20 years! So of course I'm upset because I have a NH license now. I don't know what to do honestly... I'm a bit lost with this one. But aside from those rather boring-to-you important-to-me details, let's see... what would interest you? Well perhaps that my perception hasn't changed since I arrived, I am still very happy to live here and have the opportunity to learn more about my husband's culture. I'm making friends, which is helping me out tremendously. I've been meeting up with at least one friend per week - it's a goal I set a few months ago - and it's been so helpful to me and my work/life and to also have balance. I have friends from many cultures in my new circle. I also met a lovely American lady from San Francisco who lives near to me, I pass her home almost daily while out on my frequent walks. I hope to get to know her better as the months go on. I also run into a lot of my friends while I'm out, which is nice because Hannover is not so huge that I feel lost or lonely or like a number -- I frequently see the same people as I'm out and pass by friends and spot my mother-in-law or another family member, and it's comforting you know? Another thing I love about Germany is that while I'm used to the holiday period being highly stressful this year it's just not. It's very nice, everyone is out at the markets sipping hot wine at night, chatting, it's all very informal and relaxed. Well the markets officially closed on the 24th, but we still have one outside of the train station that will run until the 31st. The holidays here feel as they did back when I was a very young girl living back in the states before things became really, really over saturated and commercial. It's not this way here, it feels a but old-fashioned sometimes. And I mean this in the best possible way. This part of Germany is the pace of how I remember life back when I was a young girl. There is an innocence here that I appreciate, and brands and marketing and slick sales promotions aren't part of the everyday routine. There isn't the feeling of being a better person because you wear Jimmy Choos or tote a Kate Spade bag. In fact, the average German has never heard of Kate Spade because even the designers-in-the-know crowd who I hang around with have little knowledge of what a Kate Spade wallet or bag even looks like! Most people don't even know who Martha Stewart is, and when I tell them, they aren't all that interested. It's so different to come from a country that is hyper-brand sensitive to one that just isn't -- I pull out my KS wallet at the cash registers around town every single day and no one looks at it as a status symbol, here it means nothing that you paid nearly $200 for your leather wallet with a brand stamped on it. I feel very REAL here. I feel like there is nothing to hide behind because people are not impressed by a woman's career and her brand name clothing as much as they were back home. You can be a very empty person with a very big car and people admire you -- just look at our celebrity culture. Of course not all Americans are impressed by money and fame, I'm not, but overall it does sell there. But here, you are judged by how healthy you are, your appearance of being fit and being a "good" wife or mother, how frugal you are, that you are self disciplined and show self control. At least in the circles I travel in. If you are buying lots of food at the grocery store, people give you stink eye like you are being selfish to buy so much. If your children are being bratty in public, you get the stink eye again for not having your children under control. If you bring a pre-made cake to a party or invite relatives over for something you yourself did not make, they will appreciate your efforts but sometimes ask you why you didn't bake something yourself instead. Also, kids don't run the family -- parents run the family. You also won't find twenty or thirtysomething woman like me in cafes huddled around tables Sex in the City style talking 100 miles per hour, over one another even, as they're text messaging. I often have a hard time not taking calls at the table and I have to slow down when I speak and learn not to talk over others. Most young woman are merely talking, normally, and phones are often discreetly tucked into their bags on mute or vibrant so as to not interrupt their time with friends. Some of the younger Germans are a bit Americanized by watching American movies and TV shows and they often intimate our behaviors, but most do not. And they certainly won't be talking loud. At all. In fact, they may be next to your table and you'd barely hear them. Teenagers are different, they are loud and obnoxious here like teens are everywhere and because they can legally drink alcohol, some are complete morons. But overall, people in my age group and older are quieter, less obnoxious I guess you can say. And I can say this because I can be loud at times and I giggle a lot. I have learned to turn down my volume! So... there you have it. Some recent thoughts... What is on your mind lately?

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Mateja said…
Hi Holly, re the the language course: why don't you opt for an individual course? I know, it's more expensive, but then again you learn way faster than in a group with let's say 5 (or more) people. At the end of the day (or 'course' in this matter) you'll be saving money (not to mention loads of time) by having a more expensive one-to-one course...just an idea...Mateja (a language teacher myself :)
sommerwithano said…
Hi Holly,

It sounds very different but dreamy. I spent much of my childhood with my German grandmother, and your post describes her to a T. She was no-frills, no-nonsense, but immensely warm, loving, and resourceful (she could get her craft on!) It's also interesting to read your post and think about my life in the midwest and how those German roots of my community have shaped what it is today. Here, you're more likely to impress someone by your ability to talk farming than find someone who will understand wearing a pair of shoes that cost more than their monthly grocery bill. It changes with each passing generation, but I see the roots of that frugality lie somewhere on the other side of the world.

I love reading your posts and hope you'll keep sharing your perspective on adjusting to German life.
Carolyn said…
Ahh! I couldn't have said it better myself...re: the holidays feeling like they used to when we were little and the people not caring about brands, but about important qualities in a person. It's so refreshing and I completely relate when you say that you feel REAL here. It's really amazing how much that stuff affects you in America, even though you think it may not so much.
aryn said…
I rather like reading the "boring-for-you-interesting-for-me" things - my husband is working on a Ph.D in German, so we're over there quite a bit for long stretches, and in Spring 2011 we'll be moving there for at least a full year. I was so excited to find your blog for this very reason!

As for language learning, check out the Deutsch Sprache section of your local Hugendubel. They'll have books for English-speaking learners of German as well as children's German textbooks. I used to knock off a lesson with my morning Milchkaffee and my husband would go over it with my in the afternoons when he got home. :o)
Anonymous said…
Hey there, I like your blogs. I really appreciate to be able to see the German culture through the eyes of a foreigner (had some pretty funny experiences with friends of mine lately). However, there are a few things to be said, from my perspective: Germans are very brand aware too! People just dont know Kate Spade (For example) because it is not a brand known in Germany... as many other us brands... Please be aware of that! About the teens: Yes, they are obnoxious - however, they are just experiencing what us teens are doing as soon as they reach the legal age to be allowed to drink... binge drinking!!!

I am glad you are enjoying Germany. I enjoy being in the US too whenever I have the opportunity and I miss it if I can't visit at least once a year!
I tell my husband on an almost weekly basis that I want to live in Germany (and I haven't ever visited). There is just so much about the culture and life there that appeals to me. My best friend and her husband would like to live there, my brother, too...and my mom. It might be a possibility for us all one day. Thanks so much for sharing about daily life there.
Barbara (twitter - babpe) said…
What's on my mind...

I'm thinking about my work. I changed my career few years ago. I used to be a big-company-working-woman with an economist diploma and now I am an ayurvedic therapist (Ayurveda is the traditional indian medicine). I want more patients, I wanna be independent again, make my own money, you know? I hope (praying) an improvement in this area of my life in 2010.

The good part is that my husband and I are planning a trip to Paris. I've never been there. It's a dream and I wanna give me this huge present. I live in Brazil and is not so easy to travel to europe. I also want to know London. Spring in europe, here I come.

Have a wonderful 'Happy New Year' . Hope you reach every little thing you want (and the big and important things too).

Big hug!
haus maus said…
Anon - Hi! Thanks for commenting. :) :) Your point is very true, yes Germans are aware of brands - I see this to a degree.

I guess what I meant is that to me, it's about 5% of what it is like in the states when I compare how brand aware we are compared to how brand aware people are here. It's all so innocent to me in this way. Plus there are so many few brands.

I mean, no one here looks at the kind of soap someone has and things of a lifestyle. As in "pump" hand soap. In the states, when you see someone has regular pump soap (like a no-name generic store kind) you think hmmmm.... they cannot afford better or they aren't hip or cool. I'm serious too! But when you see someone has something organic from Whole Foods, or maybe L'Occitane or Method, you think right away that these people are hip or can afford $8 pump soap.

I know it's a small comparison, but it's true -- not just jeans or whatever, hand soap! In this way I'm saying that Germans are just not impressed by brands in the way that Americans are. Here no one cares what kind of soap or cleaning supplies you use, and they certainly don't look at your wallet for a brand name when you open it at the cash register... It's very laid back in that sense.
CK said…
Re: Brands & the Soap thing...

Hey Holly - I have to say your soap comment just made me crack up. It's so true! When I moved here and when I was renovating (and cleaning) my first apartment here I bought all the name brand cleaning supplies. Mainly I bought what I knew from when I grew up here. My best friend yelled at me though when she saw what I had bought. She couldn't get over the fact I was spending so much money on brand name cleaning items and actually went to return it all.
She came back from the store with generic cleaning items and a good chunk of change. They all worked extremely well so needless to say I don't buy the brand items anymore.

Having said that - the younger Germans are very brand orientated when it comes to clothes. Interestingly though a lot of people seem to like clothes that feature large logos etc - which reminds me a little of the horrible "Guess" T-Shirts some young ones wear in the US.

On my mind these days: I am staring my first full-time job in Germany on January 4th. I haven't worked here since I left Germany over 18 years ago. Although I am extremely excited about the job (probably the best gig to get in my industry in Hannover) I am also a tiny bit scared as to how the team will welcome me, and how I will manage German work-culture in comparison to the US.

As for xmas here - I managed to get a 16lbs turkey, that I made on the 25th and which turned out fab. Besides all the horrible things that happened for me this year, it was a lovely xmas after all.
Kikkilotta said…
Hello Holly,
I think you are perfectly right - Germans are not very brand conscious. I do not agree that we are. Well, you can wear brands and people might think that you're cool - but you can just as well make a decision NOT to wear any brands and people will respect you for other things.

Me and my family, with three kids, cannot afford any brands after having bought a house, but it is not a problem at all. I constantly buy at discounters, and we all wear a lot of H&M stuff.

Nevertheless, I think people respect us because we are open and friendly, try to help when we can. We all play an instrument and make a lot of music. And I think that's what people like about us. Yes, like you say, people respect you when you've got your stuff together, and they don't look at the brand of your sweater.

I hope we can keep it this way in Germany. I'm glad you like it here and I wish you a lot of success, professionally and with your languager learning. The most important thing is: try to speak German, every day, in the discounter ;-) and at the station, practise!!! And don't be afraid to make any mistakes. Mistakes are your friends!

Love,

Kirsten
Anne Garcia said…
Holly, I really enjoy hearing about your experience in Hannover. Thank you for continuing to post on haus maus. I live in Brooklyn with my husband, who is from Mexico, and someday we may move to Mexico to be closer to his family.
This was the first year that we've owned a home, so we wanted to have Christmas here. My family came from Seattle. We also had our first Christmas tree and had a tree-decorating party with lots of friends. I've made a real effort to focus on the parts of the holidays that make me happy (food, the tree, carols) and tried not to get too caught up in the consumerism. It is a great time of year! Someday I'd love to see the German Christmas markets. I remember hearing about them from friends who studied abroad in Germany during college, and they've always sounded so lovely.
christina said…
Hmm. Yes, well, as you've mentioned yourself, moving to a foreign country isn't all sunshine and roses. I've lived in Germany for a long time so I've learned that in order to get the perks we often need to jump through a number of bureaucratic hoops whether we like it or not.

As a freelancer working from home, you'll probably be the one who will have to be flexible and adjust your work schedule to fit the required language/integration classes rather than the other way around. Perhaps reviewing priorities, reducing your workload, taking on fewer projects and sacrificing leisure time for work or study for the time being. In my opinion, learning the language as well and as fast as you can is *vital* to integration, especially if you plan to run your own Hannover-based business and start a family someday. Your life is here now, and the longer you put off formal language instruction, the harder it will be later. Doing an intensive language course (as well as making an effort to speak to your husband and his family in German-only, of course) is one of the best ways to really get a handle on things. And let's face it, the subsidized language and integration courses for new immigrants are a total steal compared to the regular rates language schools charge. I would have considered it a gift to have gotten language courses at that price when I moved here. Alas, there were none.

As for the drivers license thing - yes, it't totally unfair that certain states have reciprocity while others don't, but that's the way it is, and I doubt they'll be changing things soon. If having a German license is important to you, you'll have to bite the bullet and take whatever theoretical or practical tests are required. I don't think there's a way around that.

Anway, I'm glad you're settling in well and the Gugelhupf in your other post is gorgeous. Well done!
Anonymous said…
Germans are very brand aware. ;-) But KS is not popular here, but DKNY,Versace and many many other brands.

"If you are buying lots of food at the grocery store, people give you stink eye like you are being selfish to buy so much."

Interesting experience. I always buy lot of food, for a whole week, 2 big Klappkiste full of food and nobody ever gave me a strange look.
But I agree, having holidays here is little bit more calm and down to earth.

"If you bring a pre-made cake to a party or invite relatives over for something you yourself did not make, they will appreciate your efforts but sometimes ask you why you didn't bake something yourself instead."

LOL so true

Ana
kris said…
I love reading your blog particularly this post as it relates to my experinece in Hungary!

Being a malaysian I have been exposed to american culture since my teenage years. yes, back home most of us see brands as status symbol. It was such a stressful lifestyle, working very hard chasing the material status..

Now I lived in Hungary and in the begining i was surprised that you can't access starbucks, shopping malls and fast foods easily. Slowly I appreciate and enjoy the pace of life here very much

ps. martha stewarz only started to appeare on tv over here recently !!
haus maus said…
Anon - I guess it's your opinion and my opinion so let's call it even. I still stand by that compared to Americans, Germans are not that brand aware. :-O But it's only my opinion, and your opinion has importance too, so it's all good. ;)

Christina - I appreciate your advice but cutting back on my job is absolutely not possible. I've looked at this from all angles, with my husband, and there is simply no way that I can attend language class 5 days per week. But the good thing is that I am investigating options, and there are some, so I am determined to find the best of both worlds. I know that where there is a will, there is a way and I have the will!!!! :) And about the license, I also believe that eventually I will have one, I'm not in a hurry. When the timing is right, things will work out.

Ana/Anon: Maybe they give me that look because I shop at small stores in my district and usually people just buy a handful of things and rush out. :) I think they don't want to be behind the girl with 30 items, hence the stink eye. :) I don't shop at large stores, only very small ones.
Ealenya said…
Hi Holly,

I agree with most of your points. Regarding children though, I rather have the feeling they do run the family. I often notice kids doing stuff they shouldn't next to their parents and they don't say anything, even yell at people who make remarks. I have no experience with children in the US though, so I can't really compare.
As far as I can see here and compare with my home country, the Germans really think twice before they decide to have kids, and quite a few prefer not having any. Women are supposed to stop working for at least a year after the birth, then work part-time or completely stop, the kids have to be entertained when there is no school (extra-curricular activities) etc... It seems the parents have to "sacrifice" much more, so they do everything for the kids and let them do everything too and "express themselves", even if it's not right. As I said, this is how I perceive it according to my experience and talk with others, I don't mean to say it's correct :)

Concerning language school, I have to agree with Christina that this is really important. When I moved here, I did speak German fluently (not as fluent as now but I could understand very well and have a conversation or job interview without a problem). However that was still difficult, mostly due to paperwork but also because of the language, always have to really pay attention to what is said and if you understood correctly and think about what you want to say and how. One thing helped me a lot back then, and it was television. I always had it on the whole day, watching it or just having it as background noise when I was busy with something else. It did help with vocabulary and informal language, as well as understanding many different accents. Even though the Hannoveraner have no strong accent and are the easiest people to understand, it still helps. Speaking German with everyone all the time too, you end up thinking and dreaming in German in no time :)

I am really happy you settle well here and your Gugelhupf Kuchen looks great, makes me hungry just looking at the picture!
Nicole said…
I love hearing about your experiences in Hannover! It reminds me of when I first moved to Berlin a couple years ago and i still face many of the problems you do! The biggest one being the driver's license. It's such a ridiculous rule that they only transfer them from certain US states; my California one won't transfer either and I'm not willing to pay the massive amounts of money for driving lessons that you have to do in Germany before you take the test when I already know how to drive. If you find a solution, please post it! I haven't found a way around that bureaucracy yet...

And I also wanted to say, as far as the language classes go, really you're probably learning from your friends, family, and husband so much more than you could in a class! I did an intensive class only 2-3 days a week for a couple hours a day during my first few months here, and between that and my German friends and boyfriend, it more than sufficed. So I'm sure you'll be able to find something suitable with no problem. Good luck to you and Happy (slightly early) New Year!
--Nicole
amanda james said…
hey holly, seems this one is a very interesting topic. i think, brands are known to us germans, but as you said, it is not so important. i think it is in our education not to judge a book by it's cover. so to say. i, for myself, tend to look at the person, what it is wearing(yes, i do that) but then forget about it(except for a great item the persons wearing-but thats another story). it's not the clothes or brands that counts it's the person and what lies within it.

the language course isn't a big issue i think. maybe you find a course thet suits you on volkshochschule (vhs). they have often classes in the evening or morning and they are flexiable in their times. and i experienced reading and watching movies in the language you want to learn are a great helper. i suggest you pick a movie you love and turn on the german voice and see how much you understand. while knowing the story and what the charaters are saying you start to 'understand' german a bit better. or, as was suggested by someone else, read a book you already know. but this time in german. as i went to school thats what i did. i bought the german translation of the book we had to read in class, read it in german and then read it in english. so i had read it, had a fully understanding of what was going on and it helped on my degrees to =)
anyway it doesn't matter how you learn german important thing is: don't be afraid to talk. if people don't understand you, they will tell you and if they understand you, well you'll see.
hm...maybe i should start to write in german ;-)
amanda
Anonymous said…
Hi Holly,
very interesting point regarding the brand awareness in Germany. I just moved back here after 5 years in the US and feel very uncomfortable with the brand pressure in Germany. It was so much more relaxed in the US - and I was living in an upscale area. People in Germany do like the European brands more and like to show them off at any occasion. They probably just do not know the US brands and therefore don't recognize them.
thebubbreport said…
Holly, they are so right about total language immersion. Obviously you can't write your blog in German, but make your husband speak it with you all the time, as if he doesn't know a word in English. It will lead to some hilarious charades!

As for the license, did you look into the AAA international drivers license? My friends got those before we went to Italy last May (it's required in some countries in order to rent a car. Since I can't drive stick I didn't bother). They were about $15 and you can get one at any AAA office in the states - not sure how that works across the pond but it might be worth researching.

That state thing is REALLY silly, by the way!

Happy New Year chica! I hope it's wunderbar!
thebubbreport said…
P.S. I keep thinking about this post today. You should keep this in mind:

http://decor8blog.com/2009/11/12/talk-it-out-small-is-powerful/

Why don't you make the language class a priority? Something else (in the 50-75 hours working per week) will have to give for awhile. Perhaps it's having another writer a day or two per week, or if $$ is a factor, perhaps find an unpaid intern to be your assistant (maybe they could earn school credits?)
Anonymous said…
thebubblereport - An international driver's license is merely a translation of a regular driver's license and can't take the place of a German license.
Anonymous said…
"Maybe they give me that look because I shop at small stores in my district and usually people just buy a handful of things and rush out. :) I think they don't want to be behind the girl with 30 items, hence the stink eye. :) I don't shop at large stores, only very small ones."

I think also this is the point. You are lucky to find everything you need in those small shops (which I really love!), I usually miss there my favourite washing powder or just my favourite pasta or so and have to go to a big shop. IT is practical to get all in one, but not charming kind of a shopping...

Happy New Year :-)

Ana
LauraP said…
Hi Holly,

I am also a new American transplant to Germany, and moved over about the same time you did. When I first got here, I took a few different types of classes at the Goethe Institute, and am happy to explain the differences and what worked best for me (individual vs. group, how many hours, etc). I'm still not a German-speaking machine, but definitely feel a lot more confident than before. : ) My email is yabee85 at gmail dot com, if you are interested.

Laura
Nadine said…
You could take an online based course where you set up an account through which you can access you study material. You will be given a tutor that takes you through each level and assesses your progress and work.
It gives you the freedom to study whenever you have the time and to squeeze it in in your busy schedule. I can send you some links in case you are interested.

Viel Glueck!

Nadine
Dolores said…
Dear Holly,
I just came over here from your main blog and reading how you see the germanspeaking crowd feels funny - especially the behaviour chapter. Seems as YOUR country is MY country: amoung my friends here in Vienna, everyone picks the phone while in Cafés or with friends, every of my friends can be happy if served a bought cake (thanks to Copperath&Wiese) and there are some friends existing, they have the questionable experience to laugh with me in public...and of course my kids are absolutly NOT well-trained - and I often loose my nerves about that!
AND: I know Kate Spade and envy your purse totally - so if you EVER EVER make your way to Vienna, please let me meet you to upset the crowds here!
I really adore your blog(s) and am a true follower - lovliest regards
Dolores

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